Miflex hoses

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Permalink Reply by Maciej Arkuszewski on March 3, 2010 at 3:52pm

Hey Jay.

If they do the job, why not. I personally never really have seen a reason to upgrade, since I'm pretty happy with standard hoses.

Regards
Maciek

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Permalink Reply by Chad Brunner on March 9, 2010 at 2:47pm

I use them on all my stage and deco bottles. Very smooth and clean routing.

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Permalink Reply by Terri on March 14, 2010 at 8:58pm

I use them on my long hose, my inflator hose and my HP hose. Really enjoy using them and can't wait to change them all over to reduce weight for travel. The inflator hose works well and reduces the kinking coming form the first stage

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Permalink Reply by Rainer on March 14, 2010 at 9:13pm

Terri, exactly how much weight do you think you're saving?

Terri said:

I use them on my long hose, my inflator hose and my HP hose. Really enjoy using them and can't wait to change them all over to reduce weight for travel. The inflator hose works well and reduces the kinking coming form the first stage

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Permalink Reply by Jay Schier on March 15, 2010 at 8:52am

The weight savings is around 30%..........significant considering the 30 Euro per kilo over airlines weight charge. I liked them for that plus the abrasion resistance and ease of routing (deco bottle reg/guage).

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Permalink Reply by Rainer on March 15, 2010 at 10:27am

30% total weight for the entire reg set, or just 30% per hose?

The measured weight difference reported here (http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/3444715-post81.html) for moving four hoses from rubber to miflex was a whopping 7oz. That's only 10% overall weight savings, and assuming miflex hoses cost on average $20 more than their rubber equivalent, that's $80 to save 7oz (or over $160/lb). I can't imagine your airline is charging you anywhere near that much. The weight savings argument seems pretty weak given the increased cost and reported reliability issues (especially with the HP miflex hoses).

Jay Schier said:

The weight savings is around 30%..........significant considering the 30 Euro per kilo over airlines weight charge. I liked them for that plus the abrasion resistance and ease of routing (deco bottle reg/guage).

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Permalink Reply by Jan de Kock on March 16, 2010 at 2:13am

I use miflex hoses on all my equipment, and the only reason for me is the flexibility.
It is much eassier to store a miflex longhose away after the dive then the EPDM version.
On the stages....much comfortable then the EPDM rubber hoses.

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Permalink Reply by Jay Schier on March 17, 2010 at 10:03pm

30% is from the manufacturer (there are many hose producers, thus many different weights), I hate to say I'm not about to remove each hose and buy a fine measurement scale and see how many ounces I save. Perceived weight is fine with me, if I can lift my reg set and notice a difference thats a plus. As mentioned the real benefit is the flexibility of routing (no kinks) and a very durable abrasion resistant hose set. If you get a chance to put your hands on them, you'd be hard pressed to not be impressed.

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Permalink Reply by Terri on March 17, 2010 at 10:43pm

Agree get weight saving and is easier to route. Had one of the older HP hoses that blew on me at start of sinkhole dive. Hopefully new ones now fixed after recall.
Even just for washing and moving nice top have lighter set easier to hang up, etc. Should update your hoses every few years anyway esp in high wear and tear diving

Jay Schier said:

30% is from the manufacturer (there are many hose producers, thus many different weights), I hate to say I'm not about to remove each hose and buy a fine measurement scale and see how many ounces I save. Perceived weight is fine with me, if I can lift my reg set and notice a difference thats a plus. As mentioned the real benefit is the flexibility of routing (no kinks) and a very durable abrasion resistant hose set. If you get a chance to put your hands on them, you'd be hard pressed to not be impressed.

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Permalink Reply by Evgeny Vasilchenko on April 28, 2010 at 8:26am

I use Miflex hoses 5+ years and very happy with them. Light, flexible and clean routing. The non-Miflex on my doubles set are HP and 19" wing inflator hose. I was about to replace HP hose with a Miflex version, but I did not like it... It's kinda thin one and does not look very reliable...

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