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Ciao Nick, felicissimo di "rivederti". Se riusciamo, io e Flavio, passiamo a portarti una bottiglia ... di quelle che tira su. :) A presto, Alberto
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Intro to Tech at Centro Pordenonese Sommozzatori
March 20, 2010 at 8am to March 28, 2010 at 8pm
The Intro to Technical Diving course is designed to cultivate the fundamental techniques required by all sound technical, wreck, and cave diving practice. Intro to Tech focuses on the divers’ critical bottom skills. The training is centered around p…
February 24
be devo dire che siete bravini in acqua..hihihi...;-)
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Essentials at Centro Pordenonese Sommozzatori
March 20, 2010 to March 28, 2010
Essentials is designed to cultivate the essential techniques required by all sound diving practices, irrespective of level or environment. Essentials of Recreational Diving acts as a bridge between conventional training and UTD’s more demanding curr…
December 8, 2009
December 15, 2009 from 7:30pm to 9:30pm
The Pit is the name of the closest cave entrance to the deepest cave known in the Akumal Area, Is located in the Ejido Jacinto Pat and is part of the Dos Ojos Cave System. The cave provides a window into deeper “ground” layer that allows recollectio…
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November 12, 2009
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October 31, 2009
A group dedicated to people interested in the MC Series (90/160) mCCR Rebreather
October 31, 2009
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October 31, 2009

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What are your levels of training?
Instructor, Trimix Diver, Technical Diver, Scooter
Favorite Dive Sites (water, not internet)
Springs, wrecks,
About me:
I'm a Normossic Trimix Instructor UTR-TEK
If you are an Active Status UTD Instructor, what classes do you teach?
UTD Instructor - Intro To Tech
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At 4:49am on November 12, 2009, Mara Colautti said…
grazie! è un nuovo mondo veramente fantastico!
At 11:11am on November 11, 2009, alex marson said…
orrizontale si, ma c'e' ancora da lavorare...
At 6:58am on October 30, 2009, Giancarlo Casale said…
Congratulazioni...Alberto....Auguri per il tuo nuovo traguardo!!!!
At 12:06pm on October 29, 2009, Kristof Damen said…
Hey Alberto

I'm sorry for you you couldn't join us for the inwater part because of your illness. You prooved you were well prepared and showed us some nice teaching. Nice to meet you too and I hope I will soon make some nice dives with you and Flavio at your place. Keep in touch... and keep wet!

Kristof
At 10:09am on May 11, 2009, Andy C. Huber said…
Alberto,

Just to make sure I understand your question, is it correct that the dive time in your example is only 20 minutes? This is the only time I can see in your message. In our 1:1 ratio using 25/25 and O2 for deco, a 100'/30m dive is a fairly benign dive - as a matter of fact truly an non-decompression dive because the NDL is 30min. This is what is confusing me a bit about your question.
Let's say that you have a 45min dive at 100'/30m using the same ratio - this now results in 20min of deco. Again you are correct by allocating 10min in the 70'/21m to 30'/9m segment and the remaining 10min in the 20'/6m to the surface segment. Now, the first segment is conducted on backgas and therefore exponential in shape. Again you are correct by stating that the deco starts at 50% of the max. depth, i.e. 50'/15m. Your curve could look something like this:

50'/15m 2min
40'/12m 3min
30'/9m 5min

The O2 segment could be like this:

20'/6m 5min or 20'/6m 7min
up for 5min up for 3min

Now the only thong left is the deep stops starting at 75% of max depth. You are only 15min over your NDL, therefore the times are ones. So the final profile could look like this:

70'/21m 1min
60'/18m 1min
50'/15m 2min
40'/12m 3min
30'/9m 5min
20'/6m 7min
up for 3min

Now, i understand that this does not answer your question entirely. Even this dive is a fairly easy dive - only 20min of deco. Is it worth to carry an extra bottle of O2 which you - I certainly don't think so. (Also let me just throw the official disclaimer in that one must be trained to carry 2 deco gases.) The drag versus the benefits are certainly not worth it in my mind. Also, keep in mind that the O2 window is not exactly huge between 25/25 and EAN50. Both have still 50% N2 as well. Not really ideal.
But, let's assume that you are doing a 90min dive at 100'/30m then I would certainly consider adding an EAN50 bottle. I would not necessarily give myself deco credit for the additional bottle (depending on the circumstances) but it helps maintain a reasonably safe rock bottom. Your dive partner will be happy for that...

As you can see, there is not a real black and white answer to most decompression questions. We as think divers have to look at the end result, such as coming out of the water as clean as possible versus 'I have to get out because of an emergency', and make our decisions as a team.

I hope this helps.

Andy
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