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Double's wing

Started this discussion. Last reply by robert lucas Dec 8, 2009. 4 Replies 0 Likes

Jon Line

Started this discussion. Last reply by Rainer Oct 26, 2009. 25 Replies 0 Likes

Can any one explain how to use a spool or reel as opposed to a Jon line, especially in a current while hanging on a downline/anchor line?Thanks in advanceBOB LContinue

2 deco bottles

Started this discussion. Last reply by robert lucas Oct 14, 2009. 15 Replies 0 Likes

Hi , I have been using Dbl LP 85's with 21/35 and AL 40 with 50% for dives in the 160' range.V -planner only requires 12 cf of 50% and 9 cf of 02. Is there a problem using an Al30 for 50% and AL 20…Continue

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robert lucas replied to robert lucas's discussion 'Double's wing'

A 55# is good for what your diving with, but the general consensus is a 40# is good with AL 80's. LP 85's have almost the same characteristics.

Dec 8, 2009

Harvey Morash replied to robert lucas's discussion 'Double's wing'

40lbs is a bit small imho which is why I use the 55lbs. But here in the east I'm using a trilam drysuit, doub 130's with deco and stage bottles.

Dec 8, 2009

robert lucas replied to robert lucas's discussion 'Double's wing'

Hey Harvy, I tried diving with a borrowed 40# Explorer yesterday, but had to abort the dive upon entry from dive boat due to lost fin while trying to submerge. I was the first to enter so, consequently, had to hang out on the surface for about 10…

Dec 8, 2009

Harvey Morash replied to robert lucas's discussion 'Double's wing'

I've been using a 55lb Explorer for years now and I really like it. Some folks have tried the donut style and like them as well. I haven't used the Evolve style so can't honestly have any opinion on it. Just know that my explorer has…

Dec 8, 2009

Double's wing

Hey Guys, looking for a new doubles wing, any opinions on the advantages or disadvantages between a donut style or horse shoe. I'm using an old Seaelite 45# horse shoe now withLP 85's ,3mil WS,40 deco bottle. I'M thinking a new 40# halcyon Explorer or Evolve? Any suggestions would be appreciated.ThanksBOBSee More

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Maciej Arkuszewski replied to robert lucas's discussion 'Jon Line'

Towing your buddy on a scooter is a viable contingency in a current (current 1) to stiff to swim back. It's not in a current (current 2) to stiff to motor back. current 1 << current 2 There's no contingency for broken jon line (which…

Oct 26, 2009

Marc Blackwood replied to robert lucas's discussion 'Jon Line'

"Enough juice" is hardly a backup plan, and it doesn't account for current too strong for your scooter. I've watched Andy trigger up to 5 on my Sierra and not make any headway. No way could it have pulled two of us back to the…

Oct 26, 2009

Maciej Arkuszewski replied to robert lucas's discussion 'Jon Line'

Obviously you plan and take enough juice to complete the whole deco on scooter running with someone in tow. If your scooter is running at capacity just to stay on a line it's no different from jon line. You have to have extra horsepower. Doing…

Oct 26, 2009

Marc Blackwood replied to robert lucas's discussion 'Jon Line'

What's the backup for a failed scooter when you can't kick against the current?

Oct 26, 2009

Maciej Arkuszewski replied to robert lucas's discussion 'Jon Line'

If I absolutely don't want to loose the line I would opt for team on scooters. There's no backup for failed jon line.

Oct 26, 2009

Marc Blackwood replied to robert lucas's discussion 'Jon Line'

A scooter is a good option, but it's not infallible. If I have a scooter and the current isn't too strong to kick against, I'll opt for the scooter. But if I can't kick against the current, I'll opt for a jon line. I…

Oct 25, 2009

Lynne Flaherty replied to robert lucas's discussion 'Jon Line'

You know, as I recall, there was an extremely long and sometimes acrimonious discussion on the Quest list a number of years ago about this. What I took away from reading the whole thing was that a) conditions vary in different locations and b) the…

Oct 25, 2009

robert lucas replied to robert lucas's discussion 'Jon Line'

Man, And I'm worried about fish hooks and rain.

Oct 24, 2009

Richard replied to robert lucas's discussion 'Jon Line'

Fellas, knock yourselves out, hang on the anchor line as much as you wish. The reality up here for deco dives its either impossible (even a jon line would be awful so you must drift) or its not necessary to actually attach yourself to the line (grab…

Oct 24, 2009

robert lucas replied to robert lucas's discussion 'Jon Line'

No chase boats in South FL. 50'/100' safety line with bouy tied to end on surface, then tied off to stern cieat. Same conditions hear with fog, but I don't thing as bad as you guys. The saying here is, if you don't like the…

Oct 24, 2009

robert lucas replied to robert lucas's discussion 'Jon Line'

On rec dives I carry a 1" nylon strap 6' long with a loop on one end and sucide clip on the other for wrecks that are hooked in. I read some DIR posts they recommend to just use a spool instead of a jon line, 1 less thing to carry. Anyway…

Oct 24, 2009

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